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02 June 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Nymphet Na-Na-na-na-Naaaaaaaaaah!  
We got an anonymous comment from a Kodomo no Jikan (Nymphet) fan. This person's asking for proof that there's a link between exposure to child pornography- or at least, art that sexually objectifies kids- and being a pedophile. So if anyone's got the statistics out there to prove it, feel free to post em here. (We like the fact that only one of our critics has the guts tob be anything but 'anonymous' commentators. Hey, if you like your eight-year old panty swingers that much, why not post your name and website too?).

"Did you even read that link you gave me?

It mainly speaks about how the 'sexualization' of girls is harmful to one's SELF rather than suggest that it justifies using them as objects of sexual gratification to others.

Sexualization was defined by the task force as occurring when a person’s value comes only from her/his sexual appeal or behavior, to the exclusion of other characteristics, and when a person is sexually objectified, e.g., made into a thing for another’s sexual use.

Kodomo No Jikan doesn't do that to it's young protagonist. Though, most here would probably not realize that because they're just going by someone else's opinions instead of their own.

The argument here is that this book would justify children as sexual objects. The only people who the original poster might be speaking about are the ones who have already justified using children as sexual objects, hence why they are using them as sexual objects already. Do violent video games and violent movies objectify human life therefore justify murdering them? Only if you have already justified it to yourself.

So, in essence, you have just PROVED my original point. There is no proof to back up the original statement and the link you supplied doesn't do a very good job of supporting it either.

I respect the fact that people may be offended and/or may dislike the book due to fact that they can not agree with it's premise after taking a glance at the book THEMSELVES so that they are able to form their OWN educated opinions.

Though, I can not agree with people spurting off unfounded facts based on their own emotions and parading them around as true. If you're going to argue against something, get your facts straight FIRST.

Jesus, who cares if child porn hurts lil kids, or child porn makes you a pedophile? Maybe we should publish this book after all since there's NO PROOF that it could hurt kids, just like there's NO PROOF of global warming. Even if Nymphet isn't considered childporn, it's close enough to childporn to ALOT of people that you see the controversy we've had over the past week If that's the sacrifice for keeping the Thought Police's grubby censoring fingers off of my Bondage Fairies, then hell YEAH I'm gonna keep adding wood to the Nymphet bonfire.

Here are the facts: Seven Seas got a lot of complaints, they got a lot of cancellations, they got barraged with interviews, including Publishers Weekly. They thought, hey, maybe there isn't enough of a financial payoff to publishing Nymphet! The time for eight year old panty flashers has not yet come! Maybe all this bad press will reflect poorly on our more artistic endeavors like 'He Is My Master' (sarcasm ahoy!).

And that concludes the Nymphet bullshit, because you know what? You can download a scanlation but  you ain't gonna be able to buy that book in a published English form. No one's gonna make meaningful money off of this comic- unless Simon Jones at the Icarus blog publishes it (he's offered to), in which case, watching him wriggle on the wrong end of a child-porn huntin' FBI sate' stick should be fun.

So Seven Seas cancels the book and eats a wad of cash. You can scanlate all you want and buy as many bootlegs of this crap as you can afford, but the Japanese licensors aren't gonna make money, the anime company that made the damn anime isn't gonna make money, and Seven Seas isn't gonna make money off of this book.

 And in the end, isn't that what really matters?

Meanwhile, the Manstream Society has better things to beat off to than eight-year old manga girls. Thanks very much, boys and pervs!
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Lea Hernandez-DivaLea: can't sleep moon will eat medivalea on June 3rd, 2007 02:54 am (UTC)
Ami, I am begging you to STOP USING CHATSPEAK, at least when you comment in other people's blogs. At LEAST in mine and Manstream. It undermines your points ENTIRELY.

I want to read what you have to say, you're intelligent. But the chatspeak makes you sound uncommonly idiotic, not cute, not funny, not gamine. STOP IT.
(Anonymous) on June 5th, 2007 12:55 pm (UTC)
Ami's posts are always thoughtful, intelligent and humourous. I understand that the chatspeak can be annoying (when I first found Ami's blog it put me off reading it a bit) but it is how she chooses to express herself and she has every right to do so.
What she is saying is far more important than how she says it and I think it is entirely rude to undermine that with such an aggressive comment. Maybe you could have emailed her to ask her politely not to use chatspeak in your journal and manstream?
MANSTREAM COMICS AWARDS: MANSTREAM_APPROVESmanstreamcomics on June 5th, 2007 02:34 pm (UTC)
We agree that Ami brings thoughtful to the table, but not everyone likes how thoughtful dresses. Team Manstream itself is split on the issue. Some of us find it charming, some of us find it annoying. Some of us are stuck-up old fuckheads about standard English, and we like it that way.

Ami has chosen a solution that pleases everyone. Therefore, the discussion is closed.