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25 June 2007 @ 07:41 pm
BY THE GODDESS!  

 Well, isn't that just like a woman.

Earth goddess, X-men Leader, Morlock champion, rebel punk, and master thief......but we all know what really matters.

Fantastic Four  #547
Written by: Dwayne McDuffie
Art by: Paul Pelletier

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"You can tell Michael Collins that my hair is completely natural."
"This is NOT  a weave!"





Please , let that character be a skrull. I call on the goddess of comics and the saint of fangirls- let that character be a skrull...
 
 
 
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 29th, 2007 12:23 am (UTC)
Re: Reposted because lj is messing up my comments
First off, try "non-black" people.

Secondly, this really has nothing to do with race; we're talking writing mechanics. It's not that Ororo has to cater to non-black people, it's that, as this journal that hosts us has proven non-black people will completely miss the point and misconstrue the scene. We would quite literally NOT be having this conversation if this weren't the case, because this journal entry wouldn't be here.
ill-literatefourel on June 29th, 2007 02:10 am (UTC)
Re: Reposted because lj is messing up my comments
Is that the writer's fault or is it the reader's fault?

Is it the writer's fault that someone is ignorant of something, and should he cater to the lowest common denominator, just in case?

That's what you're suggesting, I think. Toning down the references, in case someone will completely miss the point and misconstrue the scene.
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 29th, 2007 03:55 am (UTC)
Re: Reposted because lj is messing up my comments
Not at all. I certainly don't claim it's easy, and you're dead right, it's very easy to go the other way (exhibit A: Mark Millar) and that's probably worse. McDuffie has the added problem of not using his own creations, and writing a very popular comic with a pretty large readership.

This is pretty much my last word on the subject. I've said all I can really say.
Humph: ebonbird Storm (punk)spiralsheep on June 29th, 2007 11:46 am (UTC)
Re: Reposted because lj is messing up my comments
First off, try "non-black" people.

No, I've only seen white people expecting that black characters should be written to cater for them. Most non-white people living in white-dominated cultures such as the U.S. are used to not everything catering to them as has been explained on this very post:

http://manstreamcomics.livejournal.com/9608.html?thread=130440&style=mine#t130440

But even the fact that white people demand that non-white people explain white privilege is another example of white people demanding that black people must cater to white people before they even consider beginning to listen.

Secondly, this really has nothing to do with race; we're talking writing mechanics. It's not that Ororo has to cater to non-black people, it's that, as this journal that hosts us has proven non-black people will completely miss the point and misconstrue the scene. We would quite literally NOT be having this conversation if this weren't the case, because this journal entry wouldn't be here.

So if it's not about race, which it clearly is so I don't understand why you're trying to deny it, then why are you talking about white people's reactions seperately? Answer: because it is about race. And if you're talking about this post, which you are, then, as far as I can see, you're talking about white people's reactions differing from the reactions of people of colour (not all of whom are black by the way) so, again, it's obviously about race even according to you in the same paragraph as your attempt to deny that it's about race.