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25 June 2007 @ 07:41 pm
BY THE GODDESS!  

 Well, isn't that just like a woman.

Earth goddess, X-men Leader, Morlock champion, rebel punk, and master thief......but we all know what really matters.

Fantastic Four  #547
Written by: Dwayne McDuffie
Art by: Paul Pelletier

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"You can tell Michael Collins that my hair is completely natural."
"This is NOT  a weave!"





Please , let that character be a skrull. I call on the goddess of comics and the saint of fangirls- let that character be a skrull...
 
 
 
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 27th, 2007 04:58 am (UTC)
Wow? People really do that to you? That's profoundly obnoxious. Why he wrote the scene becomes a lot more clear, but unfortunately, it's still not good writing.

My problem with the scene is that it rings false character-wise. Storm was revered as a goddess, is a heavy-hitter power-wise, is the DAUGHTER of royalty, and is, currently, queen of Wakanda, which is easily the most technologically advanced human civilization on the planet, and dominates a supply of a scarce and precious resource (although under Hudlin's writing, apparantly exposure to vibranium from birth makes one a smug limosine liberal.)

None of that comes into play in the above. That's just not the Storm I know and love, and certainly not a woman holding immense respect and political power (not that I expect the Marvel editorial staff to ever ACKNOWLEDGE this fact, but come on!)
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Warning: Proximity to me causes adventures.karnythia on June 27th, 2007 02:29 pm (UTC)
Seriously I had a cashier in Walmart grab at my hair and ask me if it was real or a weave. It happens all the time, and I think the realistic human touches are necessary. POC fans like to see some of their cultural reality in characters that look like them. Marvel shouldn't only cater to one section of the fanbase.
300 ft nautical brothelspiffystuff on July 5th, 2007 06:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah, reading the comments I think it's actually pretty cool, putting something in for storm that (from the comments it looks like) a lot of POC relate to, and that non-POC don't really experience (I certainly haven't, although I have tried a weave or two! Looked kinda hideous on my thin anglo hair though XD ).

That being said, it'd be nice if there were more POCs in the comics so that storm wouldn't need to be the vehicle for this particular bit. I'm not sure if it's OC, but I think it's a little strange that someone would think white hair was a weave (I have never seen that color done, or even offered!), especially when they run around women with hair that long ALL THE TIME (it certainly seems more superhero females have hair down to their butts than don't)!
delux_vivens on June 27th, 2007 05:01 pm (UTC)
Should writers give up on showing the cultural experiences of characters who aren't white American males because those instances might be regarded badly by people who aren't familiar with the culture in question?

No, but this whole post provides an excellent example of what's tedious about it...
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 28th, 2007 01:57 am (UTC)
I don't think Storm should be humorless, or that the scene should be cut, especially now that I have an understanding of why it's there.

But I still feel it could be written better. My problem is, ultimately, that she comes off as vain, and that was my main point with all the above.

Although Ben comes off like a dolt too, I suppose. Asking a woman who regularly summons hurricane-force winds, lightning, lashing rain, etc. if she has a delicate and elaborate hair process is a pretty goofy question.
(Anonymous) on June 30th, 2007 01:37 am (UTC)
Regarding Storm being "Too Black"
In answer to your last paragraph, writers of Black characters should be allowed to be true to their creative vision in terms of cultural accuracy. This will help the comic industry overcome two prevailing stereotypes that turns off potential readers:

1. White comic fans are completely and utterly incapable of accepting well-rounded characters who aren't White.

2. Comics are irrelevant and even hostile to mainstream Black readers and their experiences.

So, McDuffie and Marvel made the right call by keeping the scene in FF #547. That took a lot of guts.

Besides, the scene IS funny.

salymander on June 30th, 2007 06:23 am (UTC)
Poor Storm and actually, poor you. I can't imagine having people harass me about my hair all the time. I think it's really fucked up.
delux_vivens on July 1st, 2007 05:32 pm (UTC)
*shrug*
its a trade off. most black women i know cant imagine what it's like to deal with wrinkles, which most of us will never get.
salymander on July 1st, 2007 07:18 pm (UTC)
Re: *shrug*
LOL! It's so true, my god, I'm 22 and I can see where the fine lines of crows feet are forming already ;)
Humph: ebonbird Storm (punk)spiralsheep on June 27th, 2007 02:31 pm (UTC)
Wow? People really do that to you? That's profoundly obnoxious.

It's not only digital_femme. White people grab black women's hair a lot:

http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/2006/09/03/black-hair-etiquette-guide/

White people's assumption's about black hair are a big issue and I'm not surprised it arises in comics written by black people.
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 28th, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)
I'm just appalled by the total lack of manners, myself. What, do they go up to chemo patients and say "Hey, is this a wig?" and then pull on it to see if it comes off? Do they ask little old ladies why they don't choose a shade of red found in nature?
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denim_queen on June 27th, 2007 04:36 pm (UTC)
Pssst
It's a red X on my end
delux_vivens on June 27th, 2007 04:41 pm (UTC)
Wow? People really do that to you? That's profoundly obnoxious.

yes, they do. yes, it is. it's why i have two of these.

The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 28th, 2007 01:46 am (UTC)
I'm just appalled at the total lack of manners, honestly. I cut my hair with dog clippers and I still don't want anyone touching it without asking permission.
delux_vivens on June 28th, 2007 03:21 am (UTC)
Its about entitlement, and black people not being allowed to have personal space, way beyond a lack of manners.
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 28th, 2007 04:17 am (UTC)
Or total self-absorption...which I suppose amounts to the same thing.
delux_vivens on June 28th, 2007 03:03 pm (UTC)
Its the rage people express when you deny them their cherished moment that makes me think its about more than self absorption.
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 29th, 2007 12:14 am (UTC)
Heh, I should have said "...which is just as much a terrifying thought to me."

Every day, I see more that makes me wonder if we're not inching towards a nation of sociopaths.
delux_vivens on June 29th, 2007 01:54 am (UTC)
Nah its just white supremacy at work. It's always been like that...
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 29th, 2007 04:11 am (UTC)
And we let those guys have guns, too.

Fan-fucking-tastic.
delux_vivens on June 29th, 2007 04:58 pm (UTC)
White supremacy isnt all guns and violence. Sometimes its just subtle.
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on June 30th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
You see, the guys who think that if they buy Idaho, they've formed their own little nation don't worry me nearly as much as the guy who grabs his wallet on the train. It's only a matter of time before that particular brand of idiot gets a firearm. Bernard Goetz never went to jail and even twenty years later, I'm pretty sure he still wouldn't.