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29 May 2007 @ 11:01 am
Award: THE OUTER LIMITS AWARD- (Special Pedophilia Recognition)
Winner: Nymphet  (Kodomo no Jikan) by
Kaworu Watashiya

The series in question, originally titled Kodomo no Jikan in Japan, features an elementary-school girl fruitlessly attempting to seduce her adult teacher. Although the series contains no overt nudity or sexual content……it nonetheless trades heavily on lolicon (”Lolita complex”) innuendo and imagery for its humor, in such a way as to make controversy all but inevitable.

--Dirk Deppey, Journalista

There are some things this Manstreamer won't stream on, okay? We'll bukkake breasts, butts, bitches....full grown ones that is. We ain't Roman Polanski. Which makes you think why Polanski didn't go to Japan in the first place, if he was hunting  in the underage virgin bush.

Looks like there's plenty of it over there- or at least in the comics. Or is it  just that little Japanese girls like ripe man meat?  Maybe they mature faster? Cuz if some sweet but  horny  lil ' Japanese elementary student came up to yours truly asking him to ejaculate inside her I'd have to whup her little ass and call her mommy. THEN I'd #%&* the mommy.

So to cut a long story short, this pussy's just a little too fresh, if you know what I mean. Go write Seven Seas and tell em you want a REAL woman!
Now, what're the Olsen Twins up to?

Specifically, those who are speaking out against NYMPHET seem to be disturbed by the relationship between two characters in the story, namely an elementary school student and her adult teacher. Most people have not yet read NYMPHET, since we haven’t even published it yet, so I would like to clarify an important point: NYMPHET is a story about a mischievous young girl who tries to sexually entrap her teacher....The comedy arises out of this young girl saying and doing improper things (much like Crayon Shin-Chan, which is currently being aired on Cartoon Network) and seeing her teacher squirm with discomfort and shock while he struggles to keep his composure, at the same time trying not to make a fool of himself in front of the woman he loves....
...My personal stance on this title is, if it’s good enough for the Japanese, then it’s good enough for us.

Jason DeAngelis
President ,
Seven Seas Entertainment


The themes of Lolita complex manga written by and for men, on the other hand, express the both the fixation with, and resentment felt towards, young women, by another group of young men. Despite the inappropriateness of their old-fashioned attitudes, many young men have not accepted the possibility of a new role for women in Japanese society. These men who are confounded by their inability to relate to assertive and insubordinate contemporary young women, fantasise about these unattainable girls in their own boys' girls' manga. The little girl heroines of Lolicom manga reflect simultaneously an awareness of the increasing power and centrality of young women in society, and also a reactive desire to see these young women dissarmed, infantilised, and subordinate.

From a broad perspective, both the obsession with girls relieved through Lolicom manga, and the increasing interest amongst young men in (girls' own) girls' manga, reflect the growing tendency amongst young Japanese men to be fixated with the figure of the girl and to orientate themselves around girls' culture. The increasingly intense gaze with which young men examine girls and girls manga, is, in the words of Anne Allison, "both passive and aggressive". It is a gaze of both fear and desire, stimulated not least, by a sense of lost priviliges over women, which accumulated during the 1980s.



 Sharon Kinsella

Thanks to, er, anonymous for the last link.
tinpan on May 29th, 2007 07:16 am (UTC)
"...My personal stance on this title is, if it’s good enough for the Japanese, then it’s good enough for us."

Ok, then here's another Japanese treat that the creators might want to try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataan_Death_March
Doodles: mesousadoodlesthegreat on May 29th, 2007 02:29 pm (UTC)
I think I'd have brought up stuff like scat porn. ;_;
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(no subject) - tinpan on May 30th, 2007 08:41 am (UTC) (Expand)
The Event Horizon of Awful Thingsthetathx1138 on May 29th, 2007 01:26 pm (UTC)
What's sad is that the US is no better. There was actually a court ruling where a four-year-old was labelled "seductive."

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Jetbaby: Oh Snap!jetbaby on May 29th, 2007 03:16 pm (UTC)
What on earth is she doing with her right hand in the cover? Looking for her keys?
Gravityslave: lunargravityslave on May 29th, 2007 07:39 pm (UTC)
Oh, my god - I didn't even notice that. Nausea is too good a reaction for this utter garbage.
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(Anonymous) on June 2nd, 2007 05:43 am (UTC)
Hey now, some comics and manga fans very much agree that this is "Blecccch 0_o" Or at least this comics and manga fan does.


(sorry to be anonymous, I don't have an account)
Lea Hernandez-DivaLeadivalea on May 29th, 2007 10:41 pm (UTC)
"...My personal stance on this title is, if it’s good enough for the Japanese, then it’s good enough for us."

Jason deAngelis, contestant in "Stupidest Fucking Thing Said by a Publisher This Week" blows the others away unless Joe Quesada talks again.

What else is good enough for us? Elementary school suicides? Cram schools? Shops where used panties can be bought?

The only three things good enough for Japan that are good enough for us are:
The train system
Vending machines that vend heated cans of coffee and tea in the winter.
Baths where you pay 500 yen and get an incredible wash and soak.
Lea Hernandez-DivaLeadivalea on May 29th, 2007 10:44 pm (UTC)
P. S.: Jason, Crayon Shin-chan is about a three-year-old who is massively and hilariously inappropriate, in short, a kid.
Nymphet is about a mentally ill nine-year-old girl.

Seriously, Jason, stop moving your lips. Only stupid is coming out.
ninaqoxem on July 17th, 2008 01:36 am (UTC)
Asjs stupid things coming out of your brain once more. You be a prosecuting attorney. With your limited resources.
(Anonymous) on May 30th, 2007 04:17 am (UTC)
Not to mention the fact that the japanese find this kind of stuff as offensive as the used pantie machines they shut down several years ago. Heres an interesting article that describes what happened to the animation subculture in japan. basic1.easily.co.uk/04F022/036051/nerd.html
(Anonymous) on May 30th, 2007 04:31 am (UTC)
I would like to add that although I would consider it tasteless I would not personally find nymphets publication morally offensive.
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tinpan on May 30th, 2007 08:40 am (UTC)
Wait, sorry, that was a gut reaction and I apologize. It happens whenever someone calls me a fundamentalist Christian.
My opposition to this manga has nothing to do with my religious beliefs, and has everything to do with social taboos that are still too dangerous too cross, in an era of Jo Bennet Ramsey and that missing British kid in Portugal, an era of easy access to child prostitutes and child porn. The taboo is this: Depicting pre-puberty children as soliciting sex in any shape, form or media is dangerous because it opens the door to seeing children as wanting sexual attention...and then it's all too easy to justify seeing them as sexual objects. Reading Nymphet won't make you a pedophile, but it does broach the concept of child-as-sexual object. If you see the scans, there's already alot of sexual objectification of the little girl's body. She poses in her panties, lifts her skirts for the audience.

Manga is a fantasy, yes, but it's also an art form with great responsibility. To publish this controversial book and make it accessible to all-ages, in bookststores, is inviting the crazies in society who already think literature as harmless as Harry Potter should be banned. The problem is, most people don't think witches and the occult are huge social taboos, but ANYTHING resmebling pedophilia is taboo for the great majority. Push comes to shove, a lot more people would call for the policing of manga and anime if this book came out.

And please, I'd like to ask you to refrain from calling anyone here a fundamentalist Christian. That is tantamount to a flame, and Manstream will be within rights to ban you.
No proof = Moot point - (Anonymous) on June 1st, 2007 04:06 am (UTC) (Expand)
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(Anonymous) on May 30th, 2007 08:48 am (UTC)
RIP Nymphet
Seven Seas Kills 'Nymphet'

MANSTREAM COMICS AWARDSmanstreamcomics on May 30th, 2007 09:03 am (UTC)
Re: RIP Nymphet
In any case, I realize that Seven Seas must have lost some cash since the Nymphet license- if it did spawn an anime- must have cost a significant amount of money. So I'd invite readers to check out and maybe buy other Seven Seas material (I vote for Earthsong!) in support of this decision.
Re: RIP Nymphet - (Anonymous) on May 30th, 2007 09:19 am (UTC) (Expand)
MANSTREAM COMICS AWARDSmanstreamcomics on May 30th, 2007 08:52 am (UTC)
Huh. That was fast. Either Jason's talks with researchers didn't go so well, or more people complained than actually thought....Huh.


Well, on to the next Manstream!
tinpan on May 30th, 2007 09:20 am (UTC)
I suppose a lot of people besides myself weren't comfortable with the book. 0_0
Well, I'll try to help Seven Seas recoup the cost of the license by putting a good word for their books (not that my word means a damn!)


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(Yuri story- boy gets turned into girl and has relationships with girl classmates. A friend of mine got really hooked on this one for the cuteness alone.)
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All-ages adventure- a boy and his dog versus a "sinister Zen monk televangelist," by hai! How can you not love this?
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(Anonymous) on May 30th, 2007 02:55 pm (UTC)
Nah, that's ok. If they don't want to release the book I want to read, the hell with them.
(no subject) - tinpan on June 2nd, 2007 05:58 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - catnik on June 6th, 2007 12:48 pm (UTC) (Expand)
lost_angelwings on May 31st, 2007 06:01 am (UTC)
I think it's the smexual content that's rly disturbing :(

If it was just a story about a cute little grade schooler who had an obsessive crush on her teacher, it'd actually be funny (and possibly cute) XD

But it's the fact that she's asking for him to ejaculate in her and taking her panties off IN FRONT OF HIM, that's rly crossing a line for me. :\

MANSTREAM COMICS AWARDS: DISS-RESPECTmanstreamcomics on May 31st, 2007 05:14 pm (UTC)
Ami, for the love of God, when you post here, will you please use standard English?
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